Andres and Edouard Lavidalle, representing Stakin, offer a clear vision of their work and the broader Web3 ecosystem, emphasizing decentralization as a core principle. When explaining Stakin's role to an outsider, Andres describes staking as reminiscent of "what the internet was in the early days," acknowledging its complexity but highlighting its fundamental purpose: "a new way to transact value without third party and basically protect your free speech without other people being involved in the how you trade." Edouard adds that their company "run servers and infrastructure, machines, computers that are going to process the transactions for decentralized future." Their understanding of decentralization is rooted in the removal of intermediaries and single points of failure. Edouard articulates that the objective is to create an environment "where there is no censorship, no single party who can stop you from building something. No third party was going to take massive commissions in the financial sector or something that just transacted in a peer-to-peer manner." He stresses that this shift is aimed at making systems "more efficient, more fair, more accessible, more open." The conversation touches on whether people outside the crypto sphere genuinely care about these concepts. Andres, hailing from the Dominican Republic, asserts that while the terminology might be abstract, the "underlying technology and the potential that it can serve to those who are currently disenfranchised from the tools that are needed economically prosper in this world" is profound. He views it as a means "to bring those who don't have the access to the economic world that provide the prosperity that SORLY needed." Edouard, from France with a background in finance, was initially drawn to crypto by its capacity to make finance more efficient, removing intermediaries and making investments cheaper and more accessible. He believes these benefits, like reduced commissions and a more transparent financial system, are things people "should care about" for an improved daily life. They both point to tangible real-world applications of crypto. Edouard cites the war in Ukraine, where "crypto has been essential to main Ukrainian being used to raise donations" and allowed those "who have been locked up from their bank accounts" to maintain financial access. He also mentions its crucial role in dictatorships and in countries facing "bad monetary policies," referencing how a colleague from Argentina uses crypto daily to combat "100% plus inflation rates." For him, these scenarios illustrate a major use case for crypto, particularly when confronting "centralized money" that fails its citizens. Their work at Stakin is a direct manifestation of these motivations. They believe the decentralized economy necessitates robust infrastructure, which they contribute by providing servers globally. Edouard highlights the need for a diverse range of participants – "a bunch of different players, individuals, professional entities, small-staking companies, big-staking companies" – to supply this infrastructure. Beyond merely running servers, staking providers like Stakin actively engage in governance, helping to "shape the future of these different protocols" and vote on key technical decisions. By deploying reliable infrastructure across the globe, they consciously work to prevent over-reliance on "a few providers like Coinbase or other centralized exchanges for the consensus of these proof-of-stake blockchains," thereby fostering a truly decentralized future. Andres powerfully reinforces that decentralization is not a given, stating, "It's not something that is already decentralized and it's going to remain decentralized. There's also risk of becoming the traditional finance that we know today if we don't participate and continue to protect it from centralization." He emphasizes that continuous vigilance and participation from all are essential to maintain its decentralized nature. In a rapid-fire segment, both guests unequivocally chose Bitcoin over Monero, with Edouard proclaiming, "Bitcoin is the king. You can't dispute Bitcoin." When asked about distributed DAOs versus small and effective multisigs, both opted for the latter, with Andres noting that multisigs "can be more effective for sure" if trust is established within the team. Finally, presented with a hypothetical choice between a community of 5,000 non-developer enthusiasts and three highly skilled developers for a new product, both decisively picked the community. Andres encapsulates this sentiment, declaring, "The power of a community, I think we've all seen it here in Cosmos, is unstoppable." Their responses collectively paint a picture of individuals deeply committed to the ethos of decentralization, recognizing the intricate balance between technological infrastructure, community engagement, and ongoing vigilance against the pitfalls of centralization.